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Ep.011 - Journeying Together Through Love's Healing Embrace

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Episode_011  
When love intertwines with loss, the journey can be both complex and inspiring. My husband Glenn and I open our hearts to share our story, a tale that began in friendship and was tested by the deepest of sorrows. Together, we navigate the tender process of honoring his late wife Brandie's legacy while nurturing our own blossoming bond. Our conversation takes you through the serendipitous moments that brought us closer and the pivotal role that travel has played in our healing.

In this episode, laughter and reflections merge as we recount an amusing mix-up at a Bible study that led us down a path of growing together. We delve into the resilience that communication and faith have built within our partnership, revealing the layers of support and vulnerability that are essential in transforming grief into strength. Glenn's presence brings a candid perspective on the evolution from companionship to a deep, loving relationship, and how we've harnessed mentorship and unique communication tools to thrive as a couple.

As we wrap up our heartfelt exchange, we reflect on the importance of shared experiences and goals in strengthening a relationship. We offer our gratitude to you for joining us on this intimate voyage and promise to keep you updated on our adventures. Our story serves as a beacon of hope and a guide on how to foster resilience and joy in the face of life's unpredictability. Join us as we continue to explore the transformative power of love and communication.

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Speaker 1:

Hi, welcome to Mental Health Miracles. I am your host, tanisha, and today I have an extremely special guest. This is my amazing husband, glenn. Welcome, glenn. Thank you so much for being here with me.

Speaker 2:

Great day here I am, here we are.

Speaker 1:

We're actually doing take two on this. We did a whole entire recording like a few minutes ago, and I forgot to turn our mics on.

Speaker 2:

It was two hours long, it was not two hours, it was 30 minutes. I don't like it.

Speaker 1:

I was like, well, that was our test run, so this is going to be. He knows what to expect now. I was wanting that raw I'll still be raw.

Speaker 1:

On the spot, but we'll see what happens now. Um, so what we're going to do is we're going to talk about some changes in life, uh, some things that we've been through, how we came together, um, you know, and the transformations that we've gone through through travel. Uh, you know the reasons why we started traveling and you know what, the transformations in our relationship during travel. So I'll get started. We've known each other since 2011.

Speaker 1:

I used to work for and with his late wife Brandy. She was a salon owner and we did hair together and we also. She was a massage therapist, I did hair and we also had done beauty control together for a few years. She was my friend, he was not. There is a circumstance that happens where I just I couldn't stand him. This is a whole nother story, but we laugh about it today because I'm like, oh, we only knew. Circumstance that happened where I just I couldn't stand him. It's this whole another story. But we laugh about it today because I'm like, oh, we only knew. Thank goodness we didn't know. We didn't really know much about each other back then, nor did we even care if we get to know each other back then. Like I said, I was her friend, not his, so that's how that was said.

Speaker 2:

Circumstances, just me trying to be a good guy actually, but um, y'all want to hear more about that part? Then just let us know um.

Speaker 1:

So there was just some you know, just challenges that we had gone through during those times and um. So in 2014, I had ended up leaving the salon and going off and um, taking care of my grandmother and I don't know exact dates. This is just going off and taking care of my grandmother, and I don't know if that dates, this is just going off. You know, on top of my head around that time is when Brandy decided she wanted to go to school to do hair and she convinced Glenn to go to school with her to do hair.

Speaker 1:

And the last two weeks. Was it the last two weeks?

Speaker 2:

was it the last two weeks, actually the in the last two hours, talking about when she fell ill?

Speaker 1:

yes, it was the last two hours of the complete term of her cosmetology schooling so the last two hours um brandy had gotten sick, unfortunately, and she ended up going to the hospital and um you want to talk about what they found?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so it was actually in december of 2013. I had felt something in her stomach area and I said she'd go get that checked out. She just let it go, um. And so then come 2014, at the end of her school term, at cosmetology, um, she literally felt ill. She was um, sweating, couldn't breathe. That well, she was trying to just sit in the truck out there in the parking lot, finishing out a couple hours until couple hours, until the end of my day, was there too, because I was a junior essentially she's a senior, so I started one semester after her, but the teacher ended up just letting me go and taking her direct to the hospital. And one of our friends was the doctor there that day, at Waterman, and he, he found the bad news and it was stomach cancer that had already metastasized and it had gone even into the spinal fluid at that point. And it was. It was pretty wild, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

So Brandy opened the salon her and I did, um, sorry, the um the massage business, uh, in Tavares in 2009. And we, right when we moved to Florida from Tennessee, uh, and then decided she wanted to add the salon portion to it, and that's when she started looking for employees and that's when Tanisha had come around and walked through the door and they became really great friends. And along the way, after Brenda had gotten sick, we ended up needing to sell it. So Tanisha just went off doing her own thing as well as taking care of her grandmother too. So she had a responsibility to take care of and it was a really tough time for Tanisha, and Tanisha has what one would call impact. So it was taking a toll on Tanisha to be in the midst of us dealing with that situation. It was taking a toll on Brandy's life and all of our family.

Speaker 2:

But at any rate Brandy got better. We bought the salon back and then some things changed at the hospital, some decisions were made and she ended up getting sick again even worse and we had to resale at that point. So Brandy felt better about that because it was kind of on her own decision. At that point she said and uh, it was, it's, it's really been a. It was a whirlwind of things. So I'm just trying to recollect what I, what I can. There's more um, but we can fill in the pieces as as we go along in later days, in another podcast perhaps.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that. So we still talk about her a lot. She's still in our hearts. We still talk about her with our children to keep her memory alive. We don't typically talk about the tragedy of losing her. We mostly talk about her funny. Celebration of her life, her beautiful smile, her funny personality. She always had a way of making people laugh.

Speaker 2:

She had so many children, she would just say, hey, you with the face, instead of trying to remember their name.

Speaker 1:

She just was a ball of fun and everybody loved Brandy, Everybody loved her. You know we still miss her tremendously today.

Speaker 2:

Her spirit lives on, for sure, around us.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. Unfortunately, though, we lost her. Well, Glenn lost her, Glenn and the children lost her in 2016. And so I actually lost contact with them for over a year, and even after she passed away again, he wasn't my friend. She was my friend, and so I didn't have a reason to talk to him other than how are the kids doing? So we really didn't speak at all. In fact, we didn't speak at all until February.

Speaker 1:

In 2017, I had moved my daughter into the private school, and their daughter was in that school still, and I'd forgotten that she had gone to that school until two weeks later, when we crossed paths picking up our children from school. At that time, I was going through a divorce. I was I had been through eight years of a traumatic challenge of my ex was alcoholic, addicted to Adderall. I went through a lot of toxic situations in that marriage. Actually, years prior to that, he had asked me why I was still in that relationship, but I thought I could fix it. But that's a whole nother podcast. We could talk about that some other day. Could fix it, Um, but that's a whole nother podcast. We could talk about that some other day, Um.

Speaker 1:

So you know, then, that February, that February we talked and I asked him like how are you, how are the kids since Brandy passed and you know what's going on? And he's like, well, we're going through a storm right now. You know we're going through some stuff and um, and we're not going to talk about what he was going through at the time, but he was going through some things and I'm like, oh, I'll pray for you. And a couple weeks later I had invited him to come to a Bible study at the church I was going to at the time. I'm going to let him tell you the story, because I'll just laugh through it. So I did not realize that the Bible study that I was in was just for women. I thought just anybody could come. It didn't dawn on me that there were no men there. So what happened when you showed up?

Speaker 2:

So I go walking through the door and all the women looked at me and it's like whoa, they were really surprised and they said that I couldn't join, that there was a men's Bible study down the hall. So I did end up staying and particularly, it wasn't really any type of program, programming or what have you that I would really want to join in. I mean I love to socialize with people and learn what people think and stuff, but to study certain. I mean I love to socialize with people and learn what people think and stuff, but to study certain things in particular. I pretty much went ahead and just tossed aside what would possibly be known as an ego or my feelings and I went over to the men's Bible study and hung out with them.

Speaker 2:

I had a great time, time. We all did um. A couple of them I had already known previously as well, but um, so I endured that. And then um waited out in the parking lot and she came out of her Bible study and then we talked in the parking lot there for I don't know 15-20 minutes and I had invited her out to a meeting with some of my friends and such one moment.

Speaker 1:

We're gonna pause there so we're back.

Speaker 2:

Brent had started his truck, so we just paused for a moment. But yeah, I was just saying that at that time I had invited her out to a meeting because I felt she needed to get out more, and she was talking about getting out more as well and all the things that we are all going through. I definitely sought some things to do with myself and, of course, my progeny as well. I had gone through a grief share by myself with the kids, and the kids also had their grief share, so there was three times a week that we were doing this.

Speaker 1:

Okay, pause for a moment.

Speaker 2:

A moment, hey, we're back again so grief share um got into that pretty quickly, right after brandy had passed um, because I wanted to to show my progeny that things would be okay and we could move on. I know brandy wouldn't want us to stay stagnant and such um, and it worked out really well though. Uh doing that um, but um, so in the in saying that is that kind of got to do the next thing, you know, Uh. So she was going through things, me too.

Speaker 2:

Um, so do the next thing. Let's get out with some friends and meet some people and see what direction they're headed. Maybe we can attach ourselves to it and go and and it, and we did, and it worked out great for a while. Um, a lot of great mentorship, a lot of great fellowship and a group of traveling experiences and such, and gained a lot of wisdom. We both learned how to be better people all around like mom, dad, friend you know, lover everything, dad you know, uncle, all of it. So that's when we began to realize that we had a lot more in common than what we thought.

Speaker 1:

We did, which was really weird because of the fact that we did never. We never talked much at all when Randy was with us and, like I said, I didn't even care for him.

Speaker 2:

Even three years or so into our relationship, we're still looking, looking at each other. It's like this is weird.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we did like for the first three years. We're like okay, this is like should, should this be happening? You know, this is really weird.

Speaker 2:

We definitely own it now, though, that's for sure yeah absolutely Um.

Speaker 1:

So we had to learn through communication. We had to learn how to communicate properly the first six months when we got married. So let's see, we, you came to the church A couple weeks later. I went to that meeting. Then we started dating. Three months after that he proposed to me. Three months after that we got married. So six months into dating we got married. And there's a lot of people like, well, y'all move fast. And a lot of people thought it was really weird that we moved fast and um, but we just felt like it was the right thing to do.

Speaker 2:

And it was an example for our progeny as well. We had a lot of little ones looking, looking up to us and looking at our example.

Speaker 1:

Right and we wanted to make sure that, like we were both going in the right direction. We had mentorship in our lives, we had people that were guiding us, we had a good circle of friends we were hanging out with. So it just made sense to us, like we knew what we wanted to do. We had goals, aspirations and things that we wanted to meet. But then it got hard. It got really hard. Like the first six months that we were married we almost got a divorce because we didn't know how to communicate. You know, he would I would bring in a lot of emotional rollercoaster and he brought in a lot of, like, hardcore, straight face.

Speaker 2:

Matter of fact, matter of fact.

Speaker 1:

Matter of fact attitude.

Speaker 2:

Short to the point with my words and such. One word phrases right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, one word phrases without explanation, leaving me to wonder and worry and fear and stuff. And then the more I would worry and fear, the more he'd get aggravated with me Because he didn't understand. So we really didn't understand each other On the emotional aspect of it, and so it took Rick and Christine, who were the owners of the school, and our friends and our mentors, to sit down with us and go here's a ball. Uh, whoever's got the ball is the one that gets to talk and the other one keeps your mouth shut.

Speaker 2:

That was tough submitting to that, but it worked and I'm very thankful.

Speaker 1:

And you know what? I don't know how long we had that conversation, it must have been like two hours. We sat there and we talked where he would have the ball and then I would have the ball. But what that taught us was how to really just listen Yep, Just to listen. And from there, little by little, we started to listen to one another.

Speaker 2:

Even if we didn't agree, we listened. And then we met Reese and Christy at Healthy Relationships Now Amazing. Relationships Now.

Speaker 1:

So Reese and Christy own a company and they're at the RDB Sports Complex in Maitland, florida. They own a consulting organization Phenomenal people Just absolutely we still, in fact. I just spoke to Christy today. She sent me a happy Mother's Day message. That was so sweet, but one of the things that I remember that they taught us was the PPP, and what's PPP, babe?

Speaker 2:

PPPP.

Speaker 1:

PPP.

Speaker 2:

Um pause ponder. Pray proceed.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we use that a lot. So he went through. So Reese would um talk with us and he would go through this curriculum, um, almost like a curriculum, like we had a book, um, what do you call those things? A binder, and um, each time we went and meet, we had a piece of paper we had to write things down on in this binder.

Speaker 1:

And homework, and we had homework to do, but the major things that we really adhered to was the PPPP and it really helped us. So anytime we started to argue, we would pause, ponder, talk about it, pray over each other and then proceed, communicate, talk about it and then get over it, move on, and so it really helps us a lot. Now there was also a AAA Acronyms Acronyms but I'm not going to tell you what those are. If you want to know what those are, go see Christy and Reese. They'll tell you what that means.

Speaker 2:

Love and Respect book.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we did have the Love and Respect book. We read that together and we learned how to see each other in different light. What are those lights, babe?

Speaker 2:

Blue and pink, but also bright and beautiful.

Speaker 1:

I've never heard you say that one before. That's awesome she had.

Speaker 2:

She has pink goggles, glasses, if you will, and pink hearing aids, right. So I began to filter my thoughts and words through that um, and she began to do the same. Uh, I was searching for the respect from her and she was searching for love from me. A man knows that his woman loves him Uh, and a woman needs the love. Um needs the love, uh, he needs the respect. So that's what we learned primarily through going through that little course in that book, and it's paramount and it changed, it solidified a lot of things that we needed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So what we didn't know is those things that we learned through the consulting and the mentorship was preparing us for the tragic situation that we went through in 2021. We ended up losing our home. That's a whole other story, and we lost our home and pretty much everything we owned and separated our family.

Speaker 1:

And it wasn't even our doing separated our family and it wasn't even our doing. It was just and I'm not even going to get into that but it was a very sad event in our life and wasn't expected at all. We were trying to do something kind and it just backfired on us, I guess in a way, but it led us on a trail of traveling. We ended up getting in our RV and we started traveling. We went to South Carolina, tennessee, alabama, louisiana, texas, new Mexico, colorado, arizona. We went to Arizona. We went to Arizona. We went to, um, wisconsin, um, we I mean, we just we did a quite a bit of traveling and it was fun.

Speaker 1:

There were some challenges along the way, um, but one thing that it taught us is that no challenge can be a problem without a solution and we always found solutions. And if it wasn't for the mentorship and the things that we learned as a couple on communication, I don't think we would have been able to make it through what we went through, um, because during that time spirit time period, there was about a year of when we were going through losing our home, um, that it would have broke a couple. It would have torn a marriage apart a hundred percent.

Speaker 2:

It put us in very close quarters um breathing down each other's neck all the time.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but it's one of those things that it's either going to make you or break you, and there was many times where it stressed us to the max, but in the long run, it made us stronger. It made us learn to love each other more, to appreciate each other more, to communicate. It forced us to learn how to communicate properly. You know, during our travels, we saw a different perspective in life. We were able to ground our feet, literally put our bare foot on ground. You know, we went, we, and during those times it wasn't smooth sailing.

Speaker 1:

There was a lot of mechanical challenges, not only with our truck but with our RV. I lost, I got my car got totaled during a hailstorm. I mean, we went through some stuff, let me tell you separation from our offspring, I mean, we still got to see them. We got to fly back and and get them and take them with us at times and stuff like that. But, um, you know, there was just a. There was a lot of of things that we went through and, um, today, three years later, um, I believe that our marriage is about as strong as it can get, if not the best that I've ever, ever seen a marriage be.

Speaker 2:

And greater things to come.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I believe that it's set us up for what we're about to have in our lives today, because I think I don't know how to place this in words. Okay, so back when we were in the mentorship and we were challenged on our marriage and our, our communication, we were trying to work together in a business setting.

Speaker 2:

Oh, man that was tough.

Speaker 1:

In fact, I think everybody around us at the time thought we were crazy, had lost our damn minds, and I wish and I hope that one day they see this and they see how much we've grown, because we're not the same two people back then that we are today. I wish they could see who we are today back then, but we had some growth to do. However, our great creator, the way he is he has given us an opportunity to work together again and this time we know exactly how to do it with ease and communication and overcoming the challenges, because of what we've experienced in the last several years.

Speaker 2:

Interdependent.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's a beautiful thing what we've learned through the transformation of not only ourselves, like for me. Actually, you know what I'm going to do it this way I'm going to tell you what I have seen in the change in you, and I want you to tell me what you've seen in the change in me. How about we do it that way? Deal?

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So for you, the biggest change that I've seen in you is your communication skills, and what I mean by that is before. You used to be very like, blunt, straight to the point. You didn't give a damn if it hurt my feelings or not. You just you would give one word, sentences, or even completely ignore what I was saying or whatever, and you used to tell me that nobody ever understood you, that you were just misunderstood. They didn't know your heart, and even I did not understand you is what you would tell me.

Speaker 1:

But today you're different. Today I feel safe and secure to come to you and talk to you. Today, when something happens, you're the first person I want to talk to and call or get your opinion, because I value and respect your opinion, because I know that you're not going to a judge me, You're not going to say anything that's going to be negative and you're only going to be helpful or supportive. And if you do say something that maybe I might reject in some way, you allow me to do that rejection, but to come back around and go okay, maybe you might've been right, um, but you give me that space to make that decision of how I want to take it and um, and not try to force it down my throat in any way.

Speaker 1:

Like before, when Glenn was the type of person that, whether you wanted the information or not, he was going to give it to you. Um, now he stands back and he waits until he's asked for that opinion, which is a big, huge difference, and those of you that know him or knew him back then probably know exactly what I'm talking about, and I hope that you've been able to be around him today because you would see the difference in him. Um, today, the people that are around him, um, they come to him because he's now more um approachable and they value his opinion and they want to hear what he has to say and they're excited to make him a friend, and that's a beautiful thing, seeing that change in you.

Speaker 2:

You're very kind, so with you the changes. The largest one is easing up on the worry, letting some things take place and realizing that there's either an experience that's needed there rather for yourself or for another, learning to have a little patience and think through it, versus responding in a way to where one may not have all the facts or reasoning why a thing has taken place. So you're more steady, you're stronger, you proceed with searching out for clarity first rather than operating in a haste, and that's a really big deal. It's a great choice that we can all make, just so that also that we know, even when the next encounter comes, how to work through it each time, versus always things potentially being volatile or perceived as an emergency or such. So, yeah, great, great work.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, I love you. I love you too. So I'm going to give you, guys, some three things that can help you if you're in a relationship, and this can work whether you're in a marriage or just dating somebody, or even if it's just a relationship with your mom or your sister or friend or whoever boss. So there's three things to really like look forward to. The first one is learn how to communicate, and what I mean by that is learn how to listen. Learn how to allow the person to express themselves and not and not react to how they express themselves. Learn how to laugh with one another and at one another, but with one another. Learn how to be able to speak your words in a manner of loving and fairness. What would you like to share in communication?

Speaker 2:

We'll talk about number two, if you let me know what it is.

Speaker 1:

Okay, number two would be learn how to have patience with yourself and allowing yourself to grow, and so I had to learn how to fix myself before I could be anything for him, and likewise for you, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and with said patience, for me, I've had to learn how to allow time to take place, even if it's going to sleep and waking back up in a different mindset or changing the thought that's in my mind, because I realized that I can only hold one thought at a time in my mind and make a decision on that. So, yeah, but patience for sure.

Speaker 1:

Patience, for sure, and reading books for us. We both took some time to read books that would be beneficial to help us through whatever challenges we are. For me, it was free of me, which is a book that I read by Sharon Miller and that, to me, was a turning point. When I read that book, it helped me get off the emotional rollercoaster and, and you remember when I read that and the impact that it took on me um, you know, and I read multiple other books, but that is the biggest one that was a major change in me Um, and, and you know, and I'm the biggest believer, and this is one thing that we learned in mentorship is reading books, or even listening to audio books or YouTube channels, like you listen to Brian Scott that has positive mindset, and so these are some of the things that we've done to grow ourselves. What are some of the books that you remember reading that helped you?

Speaker 2:

Well, go-giver is one of my favorite books, and also the Choice by Og Mandino.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually reading that one now.

Speaker 2:

Tremendous books, but there's many. There's many.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there are so many books and we still have a lot of them and we, you know, I listened to audio books during, you know, when I travel back and forth. Um, you know, because I just to me it's what I needed in order to change and grow within myself. And I think the third one would be to love. To love unconditionally and and I mean, even if he has a challenge or something that I don't like, I'm still going to love him and I'm going to react to him in love and he does the same for me, his assistance, like he'll make me breakfast or lunch or, um, help me around the house or do things for me unexpectedly when I can't get to it because I'm working. Um, we balance each other, like, if I can't do something, he does it, if he can't do something, I do it. Like it's so important to have that balance and to do everything with love, not resentment, not anger, not, you know, just worry or fear, but everything within love.

Speaker 1:

I think changing our mindset and really just doing things without an expectation back has made a huge change as well in the both of us. I feel like. I feel like you know, the, the more that you know, the more that I do for him, the more he does for me, and it's a it's a hand in hand situation and it's a beautiful thing. I think today, I think we were like little teenagers that just love each other constantly. We do a lot of PDA Feels good.

Speaker 1:

And so people always are like, oh, we don't care, we do not care because he's my life, he's my second half.

Speaker 2:

Our little ones really love seeing that.

Speaker 1:

You know what, though? They have come around to, where all of our children most of them are adults now have learned to love and respect us, because we've learned to love and respect each other, and that's one of the biggest accomplishments that I feel that we are very proud of and that we've seen and we've worked hard for. It's not something that happened overnight and it's not something that we just did. We had to learn and grow to do that together. So I wanted to share with you guys a couple of things. You guys a couple things. One um, before, glenn and I, when we I said that we were trying to do a business together and it failed. Now we're trying to start something over. So I have become a travel agent, um, a travel agency mainly because I figured out that we love to travel. We've been on a cruise together, um, we've done all this traveling here in the United States. My next big travel will be going to the UK in a couple months, and the travel agency is going to allow us to be able to do that. I have access to valuable gift packages and vacation options and things that the general public does not have access to. So if you guys are wanting to take a trip, reach out to me. I'll help you with your travel arrangements, because it's much better for you to give somebody that you care about and that you know and that you develop a relationship, the opportunity for, as a small business, to give them the business, opposed to giving it to some large company who they're going to get the commission instead of those that are a small business owner. And we're a small business owner and I feel like I'm going to go on those trips with you guys. It may not physically go on them with you, but in my heart and my spirit, I'm going to be excited for you. I'm going to want to see those pictures and we're going to be sharing pictures. We're going to be sharing some excursions and things that we've gone through and you know, document a few things that we're going to be doing, and it's going to be fun to share that with you guys. We're excited about that, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Another thing is I have started writing a book with Glenn's encouragement. That's a good word for it. Yeah, he's encouraged me for the last several months to write this book and I really was not feeling it just quite yet, but recently I did start the book. I do not have a launch date yet because, again, I just started it, so I still I'm doing research and I'm writing it, and it's called Path of Choices. So it's going to be talking about the paths that we've been on and choices that we've made, and everything that we do in life is a choice, and so we're excited about having that coming out. And it's just there's so many beautiful things that are going on, and he's here doing it with me and that's the most beautiful thing is to have somebody. That's your rock. That can inspire you.

Speaker 2:

Instead of going separate ways each day. Yeah, we do things together, as it's meant to be.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. I just thank you guys for listening, thank you for watching this video. We're expecting to do more of these. Glenn says once a week. He wants to do these about once a week. So we're going to try to do that and share some more stories and things that are going on, and then we'll go from there. So, thank you guys. You guys now got the starting story of who we are, what we've been through and now where we're headed. So we'll talk to you guys soon. Have a good day, bye.